Having spent 12 hours in near World War I-trench conditions at the Georgetown hospital, Jonah Goldberg is feeling grateful for penicillin and ready to pile in on some good ol’ fashioned eggheadery. After reminiscing about a battlefield experience at a different Washington hospital some years ago, Jonah indulges in some I-told-you-so on Iran, before getting into the midterms, SpaceX, investment regrets, 60 Minutes, Bari Weiss, media bias, Sam Francis, Italian Elite Theory, middle American radicals, Gramsci, and societal restraints on violence.

Show Notes:

—[Friday’s Dispod](https://thedispatch.com/podcast/dispatch-podcast/how-the-epstein-files-stumped-the-white-house/)
—[Jonah’s LA Times column on Schrödinger’s ceasefire](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2026-06-02/trump-disorientation-iran-war)
—[Chris Stirewalt Remnant](https://thedispatch.com/podcast/remnant/rank-punditry-you-cant-refuse-interview-chris-stirewalt/)
—[The Cook Political Report: “Ohio Poll Could Portend Trouble for Republicans”](https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/governors/ohio-governor/ohio-poll-could-portend-trouble-republicans)
—[Eli Lake’s podcast with Michael Anton](https://www.thefp.com/p/michael-anton-declaration-independence)
—[Charles Fain Lehman on crime in The Dispatch](https://thedispatch.com/article/crime-repeat-offenders-penn-station/)
—[Jonah’s first book](https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189)
—[Violence and Social Orders: A Conceptual Framework for Interpreting Recorded Human History](https://www.amazon.com/Violence-Social-Orders-Conceptual-Interpreting/dp/1107646995)
—[Jonah’s book Suicide of the West](https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-West-Tribalism-Nationalism-Destroying/dp/1101904933)

Jonah Goldberg is editor-in-chief and co-founder of The Dispatch, based in Washington, D.C. Prior to that, enormous lizards roamed the Earth. More immediately prior to that, Jonah spent two decades at National Review, where he was a senior editor, among other things. He is also a bestselling author, longtime columnist for the Los Angeles Times, commentator for CNN, and a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. When he is not writing the G-File or hosting The Remnant podcast, he finds real joy in family time, attending to his dogs and cat, and blaming Steve Hayes for various things.

The podcast transcription below was generated using artificial intelligence and may include occasional errors or misspellings.

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Jonah Goldberg
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Jonah Goldberg
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\nGreetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of The Remnant Podcast, brought to you by The Dispatch and Dispatch Media. Rather than my usual explanations for why, uh,

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Show Notes:

—[Friday’s Dispod](https://thedispatch.com/podcast/dispatch-podcast/how-the-epstein-files-stumped-the-white-house/)
—[Jonah’s LA Times column on Schrödinger’s ceasefire](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2026-06-02/trump-disorientation-iran-war)
—[Chris Stirewalt Remnant](https://thedispatch.com/podcast/remnant/rank-punditry-you-cant-refuse-interview-chris-stirewalt/)
—[The Cook Political Report: “Ohio Poll Could Portend Trouble for Republicans”](https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/governors/ohio-governor/ohio-poll-could-portend-trouble-republicans)
—[Eli Lake’s podcast with Michael Anton](https://www.thefp.com/p/michael-anton-declaration-independence)
—[Charles Fain Lehman on crime in The Dispatch](https://thedispatch.com/article/crime-repeat-offenders-penn-station/)
—[Jonah’s first book](https://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189)
—[Violence and Social Orders: A Conceptual Framework for Interpreting Recorded Human History](https://www.amazon.com/Violence-Social-Orders-Conceptual-Interpreting/dp/1107646995)
—[Jonah’s book Suicide of the West](https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-West-Tribalism-Nationalism-Destroying/dp/1101904933)

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